by ellindar
GeekJock wrote:
They look good for the pics and the look of them here's my 2c on powers.
(Also I don't like the idea of playing villains either but I'll still give me 2c on those--so many of them might need to do it on multiple posts tho)
Green Arrow-- Not sure this will be powerful enough to keep up with some others in the set. Possibly solid late game but very situational
Attrocitous might be a little TOO powerful. I know it takes you playing a villain to trigger but this could get out of hand for that mid game boost too easily.
Bane-- Seems about right in overall power not sure in theme tho.
Bizzarro-- also could be very powerful but might be just right. Might need to add "All weaknesses are 0 VP's in your deck instead of -1" So that it's not too good but no one would want to stack those weaknesses to still get the - VP's at game end.
Black Adam-- WAYYY too powerful
Lantern Luthor-- I kinda like it but again might hardly ever happen. I would have to see the # of 5 cost villains (including obviously the SV's) but it just might not happen enough in most games... could end up as bad as Flash tends to get some games when there is 0 draw cards in play.
Lantern Mera--- Again too situational and with only 5 or so cards she triggers off of it could be a real hard one to justify. I like the whole "goes last" thing tho.
Lantern Scarecrow--- Hmmm I am intrigued. It's so crazy that it might be fun to try. You will likely be screwed 50% of the time but the others you would prob run away with it.
Deadman--- OOOOHHHHHHH That Flipping rocks, very cool. Likely WAY powerful but still WAY cool.
Deathstroke-- Again Torn between op and normal. Looks pretty good and might not be more OP than any of the other base ones so i think it would be a good one.
Dr. Fate-- I like it. Sure hit or miss feast or famine but still like it. Not sure of the hero/Villain break down but I have a feeling there is a villain version of this one coming (which would be fine too).
Hawkman-- Not bad good idea. I think you should be able to use Ras on him but obviously only the +3 part, i know it might make it OP but you are only using your ability at most 8 times per game. That's likely the equalizer. Since it's once per SV you prob need to use a token for him while the same villain is face up to show used.
More later!
(Also I don't like the idea of playing villains either but I'll still give me 2c on those--so many of them might need to do it on multiple posts tho)
Green Arrow-- Not sure this will be powerful enough to keep up with some others in the set. Possibly solid late game but very situational
Attrocitous might be a little TOO powerful. I know it takes you playing a villain to trigger but this could get out of hand for that mid game boost too easily.
Bane-- Seems about right in overall power not sure in theme tho.
Bizzarro-- also could be very powerful but might be just right. Might need to add "All weaknesses are 0 VP's in your deck instead of -1" So that it's not too good but no one would want to stack those weaknesses to still get the - VP's at game end.
Black Adam-- WAYYY too powerful
Lantern Luthor-- I kinda like it but again might hardly ever happen. I would have to see the # of 5 cost villains (including obviously the SV's) but it just might not happen enough in most games... could end up as bad as Flash tends to get some games when there is 0 draw cards in play.
Lantern Mera--- Again too situational and with only 5 or so cards she triggers off of it could be a real hard one to justify. I like the whole "goes last" thing tho.
Lantern Scarecrow--- Hmmm I am intrigued. It's so crazy that it might be fun to try. You will likely be screwed 50% of the time but the others you would prob run away with it.
Deadman--- OOOOHHHHHHH That Flipping rocks, very cool. Likely WAY powerful but still WAY cool.
Deathstroke-- Again Torn between op and normal. Looks pretty good and might not be more OP than any of the other base ones so i think it would be a good one.
Dr. Fate-- I like it. Sure hit or miss feast or famine but still like it. Not sure of the hero/Villain break down but I have a feeling there is a villain version of this one coming (which would be fine too).
Hawkman-- Not bad good idea. I think you should be able to use Ras on him but obviously only the +3 part, i know it might make it OP but you are only using your ability at most 8 times per game. That's likely the equalizer. Since it's once per SV you prob need to use a token for him while the same villain is face up to show used.
More later!
Hi and thanks for the reply! I will give you some statistics on the cards you've mentioned so far, you may be surprised! :)
1. Green Arrow: You are correct he comes on late game. It does balance out his weak early game because when his deck gets larger it takes awhile for the discard pile to get reshuffled. So he can have sometimes 4 turns in a row that are high powered. His stats so far: 3 Wins, 2 Second placees, 1 third and 1 last place.
2. Attrocitous: He has yet to be playtested. However, whenever you see on my cards the words "play one or more" it is consistent with the current base set to mean no matter how many you play this only triggers once. So in a single turn he can only destroy one card to get the +2. Also, unlike Lobo, this card *has* to be in his hand and not the discard pile. I'm thinking however, the plus power should only be +1.
3. Bane: is one of the few who can actually stack his power. So he could be +4 if you play 4 villains. Typically though this doesn't happen and he comes out roughly at +2 off and on. He is balanced. The theme for him was more from the movie and the use of his henchmen everywhere. So far he's come in last twice and second place twice. Yet to win one.
4. Bizarro: My favorite card in my set! We definitely don't need to do the -1 or he would be OP! The -1 comes out just right and you are REALLY faced with trying to balance how many weaknesses you're willing to take. Will taking one this turn to get you that +1 extra this turn be worth it. So much fun. He has come in last four times, third twice, second five times and three times came in first. NONE of those games did he pull his own card! Fantastic balance and I love his theme! So bizarre!
5. Black Adam: We thought the EXACT same thing! The results were not that! lol. First, the ability counts as an attack, so players can use defenses against it and you'd be amazed at how many people are discarding a punch or a vulnerability. Plus Black Adam has no power to benefit himself. So! It really was an eye opener how he's ended up a bit mid stream. Not top tier for sure. So far he's taken two last places, two thirds, 1 second and 1 first! Amazing I know. I really thought he'd be crazy nasty.
6. Lantern Luthor: Newest Card along with Attrocitous and yet to be play tested! So you could be very correct.
7. Lantern Mera: Designed to be fairly thematic since her rage comes from hubby dying :) She is WAY strong when she does get one of these out. So the other players HAVE to mindful and take them from her if they can. So far she has had one last place, two second places and one first! She came out pretty balanced. She if very unpredictable and it makes it pretty fun. RAGE!
8. Lantern Scarecrow: It is an absolute hoot if you can buy your own scarecrow cards and start dishing them out. The theme is spot on but the ability is hard to get going. You know how you have some games the weaknesses just go crazy and some there none dealt out at all? Well, this crazy guy is completely dependent on folks being scared! lol. Fun as heck, completely unpredictable. He so far has taken one last place, one third place, one second place and one first LOL.
9. Deadman: I also love this one :) The art is really nice and the card is so fun. You really choose the ability that turn that plays to your hand or the lineup. Consistently good. He is a top tier to be certain but not a guaranteed win. He's come in last twice, third once, second four times and first three times.
10. Deathstroke: You are right on. He definitely can be OP if you can get enough equipment to be effective. Late game he's very strong but we've found once people have shuffled he gets limited even late game. He's done well so far at one last place, two second places and two first.
11. Dr. Fate: My 14 year old's favorite super hero and favorite to play in game. Has been very strong and a top tier card though he has had his famine games. Coming in last once, third twice, second six times and first four times. (yep, villain one on the way!) :)
12. Hawkman: During play testing when I first made this card Ra's was included. Unfortunately the first turn possibility for 7 or 8 power was just too much and proved too OP. Since changing it to this he became what we feel is very balanced. He does only get to use his ability anywhere from 5-8 times but those are usually VERY strong turns. Last twice, third twice, second three times, first two times.
Thanks again, I love you took the time to go thru them and would love to talk more!